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HUNTER GREENE AND FRANKLIN FOIL…..
Posted: 24 June 2008 08:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Trollfessor - 24 June 2008 08:07 AM

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Because sometimes that one vote is enough to negate anything good you did that entire session.  Put another way, say the leading citizen in a small town has always been a good citizen, helping with all the local charity events, raising money for the Scouts, the American Cancer Society, spearheading the drive to get a no-kill animal shelter, whatever.

Then one day you open the local paper and find that he was arrested the night before for skimming so much money from the local public utility that the long-term projections indicated that you may well have to pay more for your utilities sometime in the future, or the public utility would become bankrupt.

Do you say “should he really be judged just on that one act?  Shouldn’t we be looking at everything he’s done?”

Your comparison isn’t fair.  In your example, you learn that the citizen has been involved in criminal activity.  Are you claiming that the Governor and Legislators have committed a crime?  I don’t think you’re saying that.

So then this is just a matter of a “bad vote.” You disagree - strongly - with your Legislator and Governor. 

OK, then what?

Well, I still say that politicians shouldn’t be defined on one vote or one issue. 

Take a look at the actual voting record of your favorite politician.  I can remember being so proud that Reagan was our President, yet sometimes I was horrified at some of his individual policies.  You’re not going to agree with anyone all the time, not with your spouse, not with your best friend, and certainly not with an elected official.

I guess I could have said that he took his 16 year old daughter for an abortion (entirely legal as he’s her father and I’m not assuming the pregnancy is the result of incest) but I thought that it might be a little over-the-top.  Or that he was hiring all his bimbo girlfriends and that their mis-management of the utility would cause you to have to pay more for your utilities in the future, while they suffered no consequences.

But to be honest, Trollfessor, I believe that overtaxing our citizens is a crime.  And I do believe that the vote on this bill will require an increase in taxes at some point in the future, as will the unfunded accrued liabilities.  Of course, all we could do is throw a little money on that problem rather than doing what every financial adviser in the private sector would tell you to do--pay off your debt before incurring new expenses.  And the automatic increase year-after-year means we are going to be incurring new expenses.

I could be wrong.  Jindal/Tucker/Chaisson might bankrupt the state before the unfunded accrued liabilities or the legislative raise do.  It’s entirely possible.

And I never said that I (or anyone else) was going to agree 100% with anyone else.  Only that sometimes the disagreement is so serious that it trumps all else, and might even require the termination of the relationship.  Perhaps infidelity is that issue for some.  We’ve certainly heard lots of calls for the resignation of the Junior Senator from Louisiana over that issue, haven’t we? 

The reverse is true, too.  Sometimes there is an issue so important to some people that it trumps all else.  For an excellent illustration of that look at the NRA (as an organization, there are certainly individual members who have other issues that are more important to them than the gun issues).

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Posted: 25 June 2008 11:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Interesting comments....It’s not just this vote, however.  If you look at other bills, you will see that they voted for the pay raise for themselves while deliberately ignoring economic hardship arguments by opponents to their pet projects.  For example, Foil touts his autism bill as an accomplishment that should secure his re-election, but he ignores the economic impact that will be felt by small businesses throughout the State, i.e. our companies and/or employers, which the Legislative Fiscal Office estimates the cost to the private sector to be between $10-$34 million!!!!  And Greene, check out his appropriations of discretionary funds to pet projects, not to mention pushing bills that hurt all of us economically.  In one instance, he couldn’t get a bill passed because it would really hurt Louisiana’s struggling health care industry, so he got another legislator to tack it onto a favorable bill to sneak it through.  Interestingly, that legislator’s pet project got a $2.5 million dollar windfall in his budget amendments...It’s politics as usual, and there is no justification for the pay raise...Just watch a few of the sessions (LOL).

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Posted: 25 June 2008 01:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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I have never been a fan of Hunter.  Couldn’t bring myself to vote for him ever, even though the opposition was less than impressive.  If someone wants to start a recall on him, I’ll sign.

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Posted: 25 June 2008 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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I did vote for Hiunter and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him.

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Posted: 25 June 2008 02:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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bottom line - 25 June 2008 02:48 PM

I did vote for Hiunter and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him.

Now that’s funny.  If someone said “I voted for Jindal and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him” bottom line would be foaming at the mouth shouting JDS! JDS! JDS!

bottom line, can you explain to me why what you’re doing is different?

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Posted: 25 June 2008 03:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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I just read on the Advocate’s webpage that a recall petition has been filed agaist Franklin Foil.

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Posted: 25 June 2008 05:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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You think these first termers have come to understand they were sucker-punched by Jindal, Teepell, Faircloth (both making about $250,000) Tucker and Chaisson? Otherwise intelligent people drank the lemonade. How do they trust Jindal and his peeps ever again. Tucker I will say again stood up for them even calling the governor and Teepell’s hands when they made erroneous statements. The governor is still ducking behind childish lines like “learning a lesson.” No, he didn’t learn a lesson. If he did he would veto the raise. We the people are the ones who have learned a lesson. It is don’t trust Bobby Jindal or his peeps.

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Posted: 26 June 2008 08:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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bottom line - 25 June 2008 02:48 PM
I did vote for Hiunter and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him.

Now that’s funny.  If someone said “I voted for Jindal and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him” bottom line would be foaming at the mouth shouting JDS! JDS! JDS!

bottom line, can you explain to me why what you’re doing is different?

bottom line.... bottom line....?????

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Posted: 26 June 2008 09:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Coach Blanco - 25 June 2008 02:51 PM

bottom line - 25 June 2008 02:48 PM
I did vote for Hiunter and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him.

Now that’s funny.  If someone said “I voted for Jindal and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him” bottom line would be foaming at the mouth shouting JDS! JDS! JDS!

bottom line, can you explain to me why what you’re doing is different?

Excellent question Coach, and inquiring minds would love to know the answer.

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Posted: 26 June 2008 09:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Coach Blanco - 25 June 2008 02:51 PM
bottom line - 25 June 2008 02:48 PM
I did vote for Hiunter and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him.

Now that’s funny.  If someone said “I voted for Jindal and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him” bottom line would be foaming at the mouth shouting JDS! JDS! JDS!

bottom line, can you explain to me why what you’re doing is different?

bottom line.... bottom line....?????

FOR STARTERS-...I DON’T HAVE HDS BE/C I DON’T START 3-4 NEW ANTI-HUNTER THREADS A DAY....

I state my opinion...I’ve said it is a mistake for Jindal not to veto it..I hope he changes his mind...IF NOT--major mistake...but he did not vote for it and opposes it and fears 4 years of war with Leg.’s and no reforms to make La. better be/c of these hategul gutted Leg.’s...look for they’ve already done to Cassidy....

He’s learned a lesson--he’s young, hopefully he’s learned a lesson and will not be so hands off now..if not, 3 and half years from now--I’ll not vote for him

SECOND...NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE DOES IN FUTURE YOU GUYS WON’T GIVE HIM A CHANCE(ESP.dIM’S ON HERE)..THAT IS JDS
He’s brought almost as many businesses here in 6 months than Blanco whole term..

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Posted: 26 June 2008 10:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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FOR STARTERS-...I DON’T HAVE HDS BE/C I DON’T START 3-4 NEW ANTI-HUNTER THREADS A DAY....

I state my opinion...I’ve said it is a mistake for Jindal not to veto it..I hope he changes his mind...IF NOT--major mistake...but he did not vote for it and opposes it and fears 4 years of war with Leg.’s and no reforms to make La. better be/c of these hategul gutted Leg.’s...look for they’ve already done to Cassidy....

He’s learned a lesson--he’s young, hopefully he’s learned a lesson and will not be so hands off now..if not, 3 and half years from now--I’ll not vote for him

SECOND...NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE DOES IN FUTURE YOU GUYS WON’T GIVE HIM A CHANCE(ESP.dIM’S ON HERE)..THAT IS JDS
He’s brought almost as many businesses here in 6 months than Blanco whole term..
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It is an error for Jindal not to veto it. The major mistake however is that he broke his promise to the people on the pay raise and cut a “secret” deal with legislators. It had nothing to do with 4 years of war with Leg.’s and no reforms. That’s ridiculous.

There is only one lesson here for him and for the people of Louisiana. Be truthful and keep your word. If that is not the lesson he has learned he can forget it. 

He’s brought no significant businesses here in six months. Businesses do not relocate without doing their homework. They were considering it for some time. Jindal’s election and promise of reform was good news for them and possibly encouraged the move, but now if anything this fiasco has possibly cost future relocations or at least serious reconsideration.

Don’t spin this. It is not possible to spin Jindal out of it. The only thing he can do now is regroup. He needs a much better staff and his next staff needs a better governor. Time will tell if he can be that.  I hope he will be. Louisiana needs it.

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Posted: 26 June 2008 10:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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bottom line - 26 June 2008 09:52 AM

Coach Blanco - 26 June 2008 08:31 AM
Coach Blanco - 25 June 2008 02:51 PM
bottom line - 25 June 2008 02:48 PM
I did vote for Hiunter and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him.

Now that’s funny.  If someone said “I voted for Jindal and that’s why I’m outraged---he just REFUSED to listen to voices of those of us who elected him” bottom line would be foaming at the mouth shouting JDS! JDS! JDS!

bottom line, can you explain to me why what you’re doing is different?

bottom line.... bottom line....?????

FOR STARTERS-...I DON’T HAVE HDS BE/C I DON’T START 3-4 NEW ANTI-HUNTER THREADS A DAY....

I state my opinion...I’ve said it is a mistake for Jindal not to veto it..I hope he changes his mind...IF NOT--major mistake...but he did not vote for it and opposes it and fears 4 years of war with Leg.’s and no reforms to make La. better be/c of these hategul gutted Leg.’s...look for they’ve already done to Cassidy....

He’s learned a lesson--he’s young, hopefully he’s learned a lesson and will not be so hands off now..if not, 3 and half years from now--I’ll not vote for him

SECOND...NO MATTER HOW GOOD HE DOES IN FUTURE YOU GUYS WON’T GIVE HIM A CHANCE(ESP.dIM’S ON HERE)..THAT IS JDS
He’s brought almost as many businesses here in 6 months than Blanco whole term..

Come on guys, we all know bottom doesn’t have JDS....he has WOS - Woody obsession syndrome!

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Posted: 28 June 2008 08:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Wrong, Ms. Bo Jangles...I’m supporting Cassidy this time..

I’m flexible--unlike JDS folks....

I hope Hunter Greene and franklin foil will be recalled.....will sign that recall

we’ll see after July 8th about Jindal

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Posted: 29 June 2008 10:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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bottom line - 28 June 2008 08:49 PM

Wrong, Ms. Bo Jangles...I’m supporting Cassidy this time..

I’m flexible--unlike JDS folks....

I hope Hunter Greene and franklin foil will be recalled.....will sign that recall

we’ll see after July 8th about Jindal

well then Bottom it looks like we’re in the same boat this time.....now I won’t have to waste my time replying to your never ending “CASSIDY WINS......HAHAHAHAHAHA” posts.....look forward to working with you on this one!

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Posted: 29 June 2008 12:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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So where do we sign the Foil recall petition or who do we contact about it?

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