If they voted yes for the raise, yes they are a scum bag
If they voted no but took it, yes they are a scum bag.
If they said they would donate to charity, yes they are a scum bag.
And either thru recall or the next election, they are history!
Wow, I guess you have never made one mistake your entire life huh? You are sounding like Mr. Family Values Vitter over here. Can I have your wife’s number to call and warn her that there is prob a dead hooker in your closet.
They were all pre warned and they all were told what would happen. Hence the recalls.
Is it perhaps that you want it to fail? What are your vested interests? What are your connections to Jindal or Foil?
Trollfessor - 02 July 2008 03:11 PM
This recall effort will fail, as will all the other recalls.
But it is nice to see citizen interest and involvement, so please keep active after it fails.
First of all, I’m kind of OCD so can you please learn to post correctly instead of having it all upside down? That would be great.
I think Troll and I are in the same mindset of this one. I also think that it will fail, but I have no vested interests, or connections to Jindal or Foil. While it is nice to see so many people finally getting involved, I just don’t see it happening as being realistic. You need 1/3 of all registered voters to sign the recall to make it happen. The turnout on election day is never even near 33%, and thats when you have several candidates on the ballot. I also think that there aren’t enough people with a lot of money that they are willing to put in this getting involved. Things like this could be successful if they had the money to back them.
As far as Foil is concerned, I believe that he is a wonderful man, a great representative and he doesn’t deserve any of this. I think he has done a great job and that you are a fair-weather fan. Are you just going to give up on LSU after they make one bad decision in a game?? Well by the looks of things you prob would, and would try to get the coach kicked off the team.
Sports and politics are totally different. The leges are public servants, their job is to serve the public.
Is it perhaps that you want it to fail? What are your vested interests? What are your connections to Jindal or Foil?
Trollfessor - 02 July 2008 03:11 PM
This recall effort will fail, as will all the other recalls.
But it is nice to see citizen interest and involvement, so please keep active after it fails.
First of all, I’m kind of OCD so can you please learn to post correctly instead of having it all upside down? That would be great.
I think Troll and I are in the same mindset of this one. I also think that it will fail, but I have no vested interests, or connections to Jindal or Foil. While it is nice to see so many people finally getting involved, I just don’t see it happening as being realistic. You need 1/3 of all registered voters to sign the recall to make it happen. The turnout on election day is never even near 33%, and thats when you have several candidates on the ballot. I also think that there aren’t enough people with a lot of money that they are willing to put in this getting involved. Things like this could be successful if they had the money to back them.
As far as Foil is concerned, I believe that he is a wonderful man, a great representative and he doesn’t deserve any of this. I think he has done a great job and that you are a fair-weather fan. Are you just going to give up on LSU after they make one bad decision in a game?? Well by the looks of things you prob would, and would try to get the coach kicked off the team.
Sports and politics are totally different. The leges are public servants, their job is to serve the public.
Fair enough, but I know there are many who would argue that since these football players go to school on taxpayers money, their job is also to serve the public. But comparing the two is possible, since at one sign of trouble you are bailing ship, the same as if the Tigers lose one game. It’s like this is a totally new year, with a new team, and it takes a little while to get all of the kinks out.
a football game and politics are nowhere near the same in significance. Most people in Louisiana have never even been to an LSU football game but the tax payers have to fork out a lot of money.
A LSU football win or loss doesn’t impact our taxes.
Foils’ vote was something that even Jindal, the leader of Foil’s party, said was terribly wrong. If Jindal is so strongly against the vote, why is Foil so strongly for it?
Jindal felt so strongly the vote for the raise was wrong that he spent time touring all the news outlets to criticize it. What did Foil have to say on the matter?
The threat of a recall brought Jindal to his senses. Let’s see if Foil sees the light!
MsBoJangles - 02 July 2008 04:54 PM
ccrider - 02 July 2008 03:45 PM
Thanks for your encouragement.
Is it perhaps that you want it to fail? What are your vested interests? What are your connections to Jindal or Foil?
Trollfessor - 02 July 2008 03:11 PM
This recall effort will fail, as will all the other recalls.
But it is nice to see citizen interest and involvement, so please keep active after it fails.
First of all, I’m kind of OCD so can you please learn to post correctly instead of having it all upside down? That would be great.
I think Troll and I are in the same mindset of this one. I also think that it will fail, but I have no vested interests, or connections to Jindal or Foil. While it is nice to see so many people finally getting involved, I just don’t see it happening as being realistic. You need 1/3 of all registered voters to sign the recall to make it happen. The turnout on election day is never even near 33%, and thats when you have several candidates on the ballot. I also think that there aren’t enough people with a lot of money that they are willing to put in this getting involved. Things like this could be successful if they had the money to back them.
As far as Foil is concerned, I believe that he is a wonderful man, a great representative and he doesn’t deserve any of this. I think he has done a great job and that you are a fair-weather fan. Are you just going to give up on LSU after they make one bad decision in a game?? Well by the looks of things you prob would, and would try to get the coach kicked off the team.
a football game and politics are nowhere near the same in significance. Most people in Louisiana have never even been to an LSU football game but the tax payers have to fork out a lot of money.
A LSU football win or loss doesn’t impact our taxes.
Foils’ vote was something that even Jindal, the leader of Foil’s party, said was terribly wrong. If Jindal is so strongly against the vote, why is Foil so strongly for it?
Jindal felt so strongly the vote for the raise was wrong that he spent time touring all the news outlets to criticize it. What did Foil have to say on the matter?
The threat of a recall brought Jindal to his senses. Let’s see if Foil sees the light!
Louisiana politics and Louisiana football are very much alike. Have you never been to Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night?
It seems to me that you have a little of your information backwards. If Jindal thought that this payraise was so terribly wrong he would have squashed it at the very beginning of session, before it even got to Senate committee. And who said that Foil was so strongly for it? Because he voted for it? I take it that you don’t know much about politics here. Before the bill even got to the House floor they had a list of who was for it and who was against it. They wouldn’t have gone forward with it if they wouldn’t have had the votes. That’s the reason that the amount got lowered...because they didn’t have the votes.
And what exactly would you like Foil to do? It’s not like he can go back and change his vote. Jindal can. Jindal has flip-flopped so much on this issue that it is ridiculous.
He could start by saying he was wrong and that he will oppose all raises until the state’s taxpayers are at least at the national average in income. That includes raises for the administration and the legislature.
Most taxpayers in Louisiana have never been to an LSU game. Foil was asking them to pay more so he could double his salary. What does that have to do with Saturday night in Tiger Stadium. One’s a game. The other’s real life.
I know enough about Louisiana politics to know that politicians like Foil have kept the state at the bottom of every good list and at or near the top on every bad list. What more is there to know? Look at the results.
That pay raise vote was laughed at nationally - “oh you know what Louisiana’s like.”
It’s time we expect more from the legislature - the governor too.
I ask again, why Foil felt so strongly about the matter that he voted for it even when Jindal was saying it was a bad idea. And what else but the threat of recall got Jindal’s attention.
Nothing focuses the mind of a politician like the threat of a recall. Let’s see if the threat of one gets Foil’s?
MsBoJangles - 02 July 2008 10:25 PM
ccrider - 02 July 2008 10:11 PM
a football game and politics are nowhere near the same in significance. Most people in Louisiana have never even been to an LSU football game but the tax payers have to fork out a lot of money.
A LSU football win or loss doesn’t impact our taxes.
Foils’ vote was something that even Jindal, the leader of Foil’s party, said was terribly wrong. If Jindal is so strongly against the vote, why is Foil so strongly for it?
Jindal felt so strongly the vote for the raise was wrong that he spent time touring all the news outlets to criticize it. What did Foil have to say on the matter?
The threat of a recall brought Jindal to his senses. Let’s see if Foil sees the light!
Louisiana politics and Louisiana football are very much alike. Have you never been to Tiger Stadium on a Saturday night?
It seems to me that you have a little of your information backwards. If Jindal thought that this payraise was so terribly wrong he would have squashed it at the very beginning of session, before it even got to Senate committee. And who said that Foil was so strongly for it? Because he voted for it? I take it that you don’t know much about politics here. Before the bill even got to the House floor they had a list of who was for it and who was against it. They wouldn’t have gone forward with it if they wouldn’t have had the votes. That’s the reason that the amount got lowered...because they didn’t have the votes.
And what exactly would you like Foil to do? It’s not like he can go back and change his vote. Jindal can. Jindal has flip-flopped so much on this issue that it is ridiculous.
Jindal never said it was a bad idea until about the last week of session. If he thought it was such a bad idea he would have killed it long before it got to this point.
I don’t see how you can blame Franklin Foil for Tucker’s mistake. Foil voted for it and that was not smart but the governor has made it clear he let the legislature’s leaders know he was against it. Maybe Tucker did not deliver the governor’s message. From what the governor said publicly, it looks like somewhere between the governor and the legislature communications was lost in the middle somewhere. That would mean whatever he told Tucker and Chaisson they must have failed to tell their members.
I don’t see how you can blame Franklin Foil for Tucker’s mistake. Foil voted for it and that was not smart but the governor has made it clear he let the legislature’s leaders know he was against it. Maybe Tucker did not deliver the governor’s message. From what the governor said publicly, it looks like somewhere between the governor and the legislature communications was lost in the middle somewhere. That would mean whatever he told Tucker and Chaisson they must have failed to tell their members.
We hear the Governor say that now, but we certainly didn’t hear it then--I’m just not willing to say his hands are clean in this matter. Anyone who’s been around this place for any length of time knows that legislative pay raise bills don’t move without an assurance from the Governor that the bill will be signed.
Anyone who believes that the Governor was opposing the pay raise throughout the process is either ignorant of how things work or they are too blinded by their faith in the false prophet on the fourth floor. Jindal’s folks were actively threatening people who were not supporting the voucher bill. If he had given any indication to any legislators that he was opposed to the pay raise and that it was bound for the veto stack, then it never would have come off of the Senate floor, where the votes were slim at best. The entire debacle can be squarely laid at the Governor’s feet.
