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Posted: 30 May 2008 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080530/ap_on_re_mi_ea/iraq

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Posted: 30 May 2008 06:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Fear what… The coins or the troops?

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Posted: 31 May 2008 04:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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dirty dan - 30 May 2008 06:09 PM

Fear what… The coins or the troops?

The coins and the words on the coins. Couldn’t they just accept them and explain that we believe differently? Do they have to make a big thing of it and act as if the coins have some kind of power to draw people in against their will? If they are so bound to the truth of their faith, what do they have to fear from coins?

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Posted: 31 May 2008 04:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Any religion that fears another, fears it’s own validity.

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Posted: 31 May 2008 05:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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fred - 31 May 2008 04:52 PM

Any religion that fears another, fears it’s own validity.

Well, I don’t question the validity of my religion and I wonder if I would object to someone passing out coins with a Muslim scripture on them in my community. It might alarm me but I’ll have to say I admire the soldier who was passing out the coins in Iraq.

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Posted: 31 May 2008 05:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Twitt - 31 May 2008 05:35 PM

fred - 31 May 2008 04:52 PM
Any religion that fears another, fears it’s own validity.

Well, I don’t question the validity of my religion and I wonder if I would object to someone passing out coins with a Muslim scripture on them in my community. It might alarm me but I’ll have to say I admire the soldier who was passing out the coins in Iraq.

Our soldiers aren’t there to spread Christianity. Our soldiers are there to allow/enforce democracy. It’s admirable if he want’s to witness to the Muslims, but he shouldn’t do it as a US soldier.

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Posted: 01 June 2008 05:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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dirty dan - 31 May 2008 05:48 PM

Twitt - 31 May 2008 05:35 PM
fred - 31 May 2008 04:52 PM
Any religion that fears another, fears it’s own validity.

Well, I don’t question the validity of my religion and I wonder if I would object to someone passing out coins with a Muslim scripture on them in my community. It might alarm me but I’ll have to say I admire the soldier who was passing out the coins in Iraq.

Our soldiers aren’t there to spread Christianity. Our soldiers are there to allow/enforce democracy. It’s admirable if he want’s to witness to the Muslims, but he shouldn’t do it as a US soldier.

He may not have done it “as a soldier” and I would say that his allegiance to his faith is greater or at least comparable to his allegiance to his country. If rules forbid it, then he must abide by the rules but I still admire his effort and I feel that God is also pleased. That’s just my opinion, of course.

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Posted: 02 June 2008 08:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war.

One side asked: “Where will you spend eternity?”

The other contained a verse from the New Testament: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16.”

Mohammed Hassan Abdullah said he witnessed the coins being handed out on Tuesday as he was waiting at the Halabsa checkpoint, although he didn’t receive one himself.

The U.S. military responded quickly to the incident, first reported by McClatchy Newspapers, removing a Marine from duty pending an investigation. Military regulations forbid proselytizing any religion.

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Posted: 02 June 2008 09:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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dirty dan - 02 June 2008 08:46 AM

Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war.

One side asked: “Where will you spend eternity?”

The other contained a verse from the New Testament: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16.”

Mohammed Hassan Abdullah said he witnessed the coins being handed out on Tuesday as he was waiting at the Halabsa checkpoint, although he didn’t receive one himself.

The U.S. military responded quickly to the incident, first reported by McClatchy Newspapers, removing a Marine from duty pending an investigation. Military regulations forbid proselytizing any religion.

You wasted your time. I knew that. Still, he may have passed the coins out as a personal thing that he felt compelled to do. Did the military approve? No, it said he was removed while they investigated. What do you want to bet he was a good soldier and one that never gave trouble to anybody intentionally. He messed up when he tried to spread what many Christians call The Good News. He’s been stopped.

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Posted: 02 June 2008 09:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Twitt - 02 June 2008 09:21 AM

dirty dan - 02 June 2008 08:46 AM
Sunni officials and residents said a Marine distributed about 10 coins at a checkpoint controlling access to the city, the scene of one of the fiercest battles of the war.

One side asked: “Where will you spend eternity?”

The other contained a verse from the New Testament: “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. John 3:16.”

Mohammed Hassan Abdullah said he witnessed the coins being handed out on Tuesday as he was waiting at the Halabsa checkpoint, although he didn’t receive one himself.

The U.S. military responded quickly to the incident, first reported by McClatchy Newspapers, removing a Marine from duty pending an investigation. Military regulations forbid proselytizing any religion.

You wasted your time. I knew that. Still, he may have passed the coins out as a personal thing that he felt compelled to do. Did the military approve? No, it said he was removed while they investigated. What do you want to bet he was a good soldier and one that never gave trouble to anybody intentionally. He messed up when he tried to spread what many Christians call The Good News. He’s been stopped.

He probably is a good soldier. If he distributed the coins from his post it was poor judgement.

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Posted: 03 June 2008 08:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I was too small to remember but I have a feeling passing out of some coins with a scripture on them would not have mattered to the military during World War 2. Maybe it has something to do now with who we are fighting and I might emphasize, FIGHTING FOR. In my opinion the military should have told the objectors to “suck it up, what are you scared of?”. We cow-tow entirely too much and that’s part of our trouble.

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Posted: 03 June 2008 11:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Twitt - 03 June 2008 08:56 AM

I was too small to remember but I have a feeling passing out of some coins with a scripture on them would not have mattered to the military during World War 2. Maybe it has something to do now with who we are fighting and I might emphasize, FIGHTING FOR. In my opinion the military should have told the objectors to “suck it up, what are you scared of?”. We cow-tow entirely too much and that’s part of our trouble.

Twitt,
If we attemp to convert those people from Muslims to Christians while we’re holding a gun, it would appear that we’re not much better than them.  That is not our government’s job. Can’t you understand that?

If you want to convert someone, form a church mission to the region.

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Posted: 03 June 2008 12:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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dirty dan - 03 June 2008 11:44 AM

Twitt - 03 June 2008 08:56 AM
I was too small to remember but I have a feeling passing out of some coins with a scripture on them would not have mattered to the military during World War 2. Maybe it has something to do now with who we are fighting and I might emphasize, FIGHTING FOR. In my opinion the military should have told the objectors to “suck it up, what are you scared of?”. We cow-tow entirely too much and that’s part of our trouble.

Twitt,
If we attemp to convert those people from Muslims to Christians while we’re holding a gun, it would appear that we’re not much better than them.  That is not our government’s job. Can’t you understand that?

If you want to convert someone, form a church mission to the region.

No, I can’t understand it. Handing out a coin with a scripture on it that I’m not even sure was in their language and they may have no access to a Bible, is not attempting to convert. It only shows interest and kindness. As men have gone to battle with guns in their hands they have passed out candy to children. The Bible is full of wars and offers no guarantee that we will be free of them on this earth. Fighting for something better, more hopeful for all, more democratic, is why we’re over there.  Never mind this argument though. I’ve said all I know.

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Posted: 03 June 2008 02:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I think it has alot to do with the last time a military force tried to force it’s religon on muslim people. You see how that could look kind of Bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

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Posted: 03 June 2008 03:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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BuyUpolitics - 03 June 2008 02:39 PM

I think it has alot to do with the last time a military force tried to force it’s religon on muslim people. You see how that could look kind of Bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

Well, as long as the Muslims NEVER try to force their religion on other human beings. They never have, you know.

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Posted: 03 June 2008 04:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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BuyUpolitics - 03 June 2008 02:39 PM

I think it has alot to do with the last time a military force tried to force it’s religon on muslim people. You see how that could look kind of Bad.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades

Which came after the mooslems violently took that area over from earlier christians.. No side is innocent in this struggle.  And then later, the ottomans came in and just as violently took it again.  It remains mooslem to this day.

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