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Will Ethics Board Go After Appointees Who Were Contributors to the Office Holder’s Campaign?
Posted: 02 November 2008 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]
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All eyes will be on the Ethics Board to see if it goes after any individual who was appointed to a state board who it was later discovered made a contribution to the office holder who appointed that individual to that position.  There are rumours that such instances exist. Once the Ethics Boards begins its investigation we’ll see how many.

For you youngsters on the PoliticsLA site, back in the dark Edwards days men from small towns would make a contribution to Edwards’ campaign, then when Edwin won, these same men would be appointed to influencial state boards and commissions.  If you don’t believe me just ask any capital-watcher over 45. People don’t like to talk about those times, as perverted as they were, but it did happen.

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Posted: 02 November 2008 08:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Darn near everybody on the Stadium and Exposition board made LARGE contributions to Jindal. I documented this in another post months ago. How I wonder did they come to get the state funding for that $45 million commercial building without even a debate??? I wonder what is the relationship of the building owners and the board members???

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Posted: 02 November 2008 10:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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maurepas1 - 02 November 2008 07:49 PM

All eyes will be on the Ethics Board to see if it goes after any individual who was appointed to a state board who it was later discovered made a contribution to the office holder who appointed that individual to that position.

Is that unlawful?  If someone donates to Jindal’s campaign, then Jindal can’t appoint that person to a position?  I didn’t realize that was the law, do you happen to have the citation for that?

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Posted: 02 November 2008 10:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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All eyes will be on the Ethics Board to see if it goes after any individual who was appointed to a state board who it was later discovered made a contribution to the office holder who appointed that individual to that position.

Is that unlawful?  If someone donates to Jindal’s campaign, then Jindal can’t appoint that person to a position?  I didn’t realize that was the law, do you happen to have the citation for that?

Maybe such practices were legal during the Edwards Era, but today, with the emphasis on ethics, how could it not be unethical?  Are we so screwed up that we can’t even see the problem with such behavior?

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Posted: 02 November 2008 10:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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According to the tales Old Clyde Vidrine was a master of lining up jobs for contributors to the Edward’s campaigns.  That’s just how it was done in the old days. You gave a few grand to the campaign and you got appointed to a seat on a board or commission. 

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Posted: 02 November 2008 10:39 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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maurepas1 - 02 November 2008 10:30 PM

how could it not be unethical?

So is it unlawful or not?  Are you just assuming that is the law?

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Posted: 02 November 2008 10:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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A classic article from The Washington Monthly from 1988, back in the Edwards era, when giving candiates money was a way to influence and power.  Now, in this enlightened era, in the new Louisiana, our boards and commissions are filled with academics, scholars, and average citizens, who are surprised, when they get a call one day from someone at the governor’s office to serve on a board or commission:

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The Real Monkey Business by Liz Galtney

Billy Broadhurst’s 15 minutes of fame began May 2, 1987, the night The Miami Herald staked out Gary Hart’s townhouse. While Hart took only a few questions before retreating inside, the Louisiana lobbyist tracked down the Herald reporters to set the story straight. But Broadhurst, a political associate and close friend to Edwin Edwards, the Louisiana governor who was investigated by seven grand juries, was unable to wring the story from the headlines. By the end of the week, it seemed as if he was a line in every article, op-ed, and soundbite as the press pored over the itinerary of the trip he had arranged for Hart and a couple of friends to take to Bimini.

But that’s about all America saw of Billy Broadhurst. While reporters have tailored their inquiries to Hart’s womanizing, little has been said about the man Hart met through a political consultant in 1984 and came to know as a close friend and campaign adviser. “A fine, upstanding citizen,” Hart said of Broadhurst last September, describing the man with whom he had taken vacations and put on his national finance board. For his part, Edwin Edwards spoke ddifferently of his former law partner and close friend, telling a state senator: “Billy was more careful when he was pimping for me.”

Among Louisiana politicos, Broadhurst is notorious as a lobbyist’s lobbyist, having parlayed his close ties to Edwards into a lucrative law practice. During Edwards’s reign, the state’s major interests—gas, oil, minerals—became Broadhurst’s. Those ties proved useful outside Louisiana, too. His clout and his connections made him important to Hart and his debt-ridden campaign. Around campaign headquarters. Broadhurst’s reputation as a man who could tap campaign donors earned him the title of “Mr. Deep Pockets.” The two were close enough, recalled former Hart adviser Peter Tauber in an article in The New York Times Magazine, that when he asked for a moment alone with Hart, the candidate said, “This is alone,” pointing to Broadhurst, his wife, and two other aides. Looking back on Broadhurst’s career and his closeness to Hart, it becomes clear that the real monkey business had nothing to do with Donna Rice.

The bayou connection

The path that took Broadhurst to the Hart campaign began in Crowley, Louisiana in the heart of Acadia, the oil-gas-and-gumbo region that is home to Louisiana’s Cajuns. In 1963, this son of an established accountant and graduate of Louisiana State University Law School took a job with one of the town’s most prominent lawyers, Edwin Edwards, his senior by a dozen years.

As close as they were and as close as they’ve stayed, ther have different personalities, say those who know them. One of Edwards’s favorite quips is “laissez les bontemps roulez”—let the good times roll. While Broadhurst also became known for the way he wined and dined people—not just in Bimini but in Baton Rouge, where he threw an annual crawfish and duck luncheon for state capitol reporters—he came by his partying less naturally than his senior, Edwards. “He’s whatever he needs to be at the time,” said one, lawyer who knows him.

Over the next decade the two of them, along with Edwin’s brother Nolan, built a business as Edwin built a political career, rising from the Crowley city council to Congress. By 1972, Edwin Edwards was governor, and Broadhurst was on his way to building his own practice, never straying far from his mentor.

“I’d put him in the category of five people who were closest to the governor,” says Bob d’Hemecourt, former head of Edwards’s New Orleans office and a Hart delegate in 1984. “You can’t get any closer than that five. Billy got to see Edwin s much as he wanted.” He clearly envisioned having the same access to Hart. A frequent visitor to the Louisiana governor’s mansion who is close to Edwards says that when he ran into Broadhurst, “He told me that I should support Hart because (Broadhurst) was going to be one of three people I would have to go through to see the president.”

Throughout Edwards’s terms of office (from 1972-1980 and 1984 through March 1988), Broadhurst’s clout wasn’t codified in prestigious government titles but in more mundane lines on his resume like “chairman of the ad hoc committee preparing the rules and regulations for the reclamation of lignite.” It was these obscure but important assignments that made him a man for the state’s energy interests to know and that bolstered the fortunes of his law firm. According to the New Orleans Times-Picayune, in 1979, Broadhurst’s firm was awarded $585,500 in state contracts to represent indigents, more than any other firm. In 1986, Broadhurst scored another win. Edwards’s appointees in the Department of Natural Resources gave his firm’s Washington office a $95,000 contract that had been awarded to the firm of Washington lobbyist Tommy Boggs, son of Hale Boggs, the deceased Louisiana congressman and House Majority Leader.

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1316/is_/ai_6351545

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Posted: 02 November 2008 10:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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You still have not confirmed whether someone who donates to a campaign is prohibited from being appointed.

The more I think about it, the more I suspect that it is not prohibited.

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Posted: 02 November 2008 11:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Trollfessor - 02 November 2008 10:57 PM

You still have not confirmed whether someone who donates to a campaign is prohibited from being appointed.

The more I think about it, the more I suspect that it is not prohibited.

For some politicians it is not only prohibited but encouraged. We have two parties in this country. In one party such a practice is frowned upon; in the other party it is business is usual. Which do you think is which?

(I have to disclose that from what I understand, at one time if you wanted to serve on the King Cake Commission it was appropriate to donate to the mayor’s campaign fund. However, after the baby positioning scandals, nobody listens to the KCC anymore anyway.)

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Posted: 03 November 2008 12:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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BOTH parties have done it.  I can promise you that in every Administration prior to Jindal, campaign donors have been appointed to boards and have been hired in state government.  I strongly suspect that Jindal has done the same.

You began this thread with an assumption that there is a prohibition on appointing someone who has made a contribution.  That very well may be true, but I’m not going to believe it until I see some proof.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 08:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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From the mouth of the babe

BATON ROUGE – On Governor Bobby Jindal’s first day in office today he called his cabinet together for their first cabinet meeting at the Governor’s mansion. Following the meeting, Jindal held a press conference to announce his signing of four executive orders. One order calls for greater transparency in government; another for high ethical standards for the executive branch; one to expedite the hurricane recovery decision-making in government by helping to eliminate any duplicative efforts and red tape; and he announced an order to issue a limited hiring freeze to encourage each agency to search for ways to eliminate waste and save money within the divisions under their jurisdiction. Highlights of each executive order are included below:

http://gov.louisiana.gov/index.cfm?articleID=29&md;=newsroom&tmp;=detail

I would like to see these written authorizations for Piyush’s hires.

Executive Department – Limited Hiring Freeze – “Highlights”

WHEREAS, to limit or control the growth in government positions, prudent fiscal management practices dictate that the best interests of the citizens of the state of Louisiana will be served by the implementation of a hiring freeze throughout the executive branch of state government to achieve at least a state general fund dollar savings of twenty-five million dollars ($25,000,000).

SECTION 1:  No vacancy in an existing or new position of employment within the executive branch of state government, which exists on or occurs after January 15, 2008, shall be filled without the express written approval of the commissioner of administration.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 09:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Trollfessor - 02 November 2008 10:57 PM

You still have not confirmed whether someone who donates to a campaign is prohibited from being appointed.

The more I think about it, the more I suspect that it is not prohibited.

You are correct, it is not prohibited. HB 38 from the 1st special session tried to prohibit this, but it failed to get out of committee.

But one thing that bothers me is that the governor’s transition finance report is not available to the public. So we can’t even see which big donors are getting on boards or commissions. Hunter Greene tried to get this available to all of us with HB 678 in the regular session, but it got killed in the Senate.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 10:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Thanks MsBoJangles, and here is HB 38.  I would be surprised if any state has such a law, and it may be unconstitutional.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 10:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Trollfessor - 03 November 2008 10:15 AM

Thanks MsBoJangles, and here is HB 38.  I would be surprised if any state has such a law, and it may be unconstitutional.

The unconstitutional argument is always a good one.  Louisiana has quite a few laws on the books that are unconstitutional - such as laws against abortion.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 10:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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And also the new Louisiana Academic Freedom Act, allowing Intelligent Design into our science classrooms.  Yes, there are several unconstitutional laws on our books.

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Posted: 03 November 2008 11:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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maurepas1 - 02 November 2008 10:30 PM

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maurepas1 - 02 November 2008 07:49 PM
All eyes will be on the Ethics Board to see if it goes after any individual who was appointed to a state board who it was later discovered made a contribution to the office holder who appointed that individual to that position.

Is that unlawful?  If someone donates to Jindal’s campaign, then Jindal can’t appoint that person to a position?  I didn’t realize that was the law, do you happen to have the citation for that?

Maybe such practices were legal during the Edwards Era, but today, with the emphasis on ethics, how could it not be unethical?  Are we so screwed up that we can’t even see the problem with such behavior?

Maurepas, is it ethical for candidates to hire people who worked on their campaigns whether paid or volunteer service? People who have money tend to be more qualified and also tend to agree with candidates on issues. It’s unethical if it’s quid pro quo, that the services or money was on condition. That being said, it seems to me that this would end up in thought policing.

All candidates have a tendency to help the people who helped them, it’s human nature, it’s responsible politics, and provides stability in our nation. Could you imagine what it would be like if candidates couldn’t hire their supporters? That they actually sought out people that worked against them? There’d be far more scandals than we currently have.

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