Democrats stealing Minnesota senate race
Posted: 10 November 2008 07:26 PM   [ Ignore ]
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When voters woke up on Wednesday morning after the election, Senator Norm Coleman led Al Franken by what seemed like a relatively comfortable 725 votes. By Wednesday night, that lead had shrunk to 477. By Thursday night, it was down to 336. By Friday, it was 239. Late Sunday night, the difference had gone down to just 221—a total change over 4 days of 504 votes.

Amazingly, this all has occurred even though there hasn’t even yet been a recount. Just local election officials correcting claimed typos in how the numbers were reported. Counties will certify their results today, and their final results will be sent to the secretary of state by Friday. The actual recount won’t even start until November 19.

Correcting these typos was claimed to add 435 votes to Franken and take 69 votes from Coleman. Corrections were posted in other races, but they were only a fraction of those for the Senate. The Senate gains for Franken were 2.5 times the gain for Obama in the presidential race count, 2.9 times the total gain that Democrats got across all Minnesota congressional races, and 5 times the net loss that Democrats suffered for all state House races.

Virtually all of Franken’s new votes came from just three out of 4130 precincts, and almost half the gain (246 votes) occurred in one precinct—Two Harbors, a small town north of Duluth along Lake Superior—a heavily Democratic precinct where Obama received 64 percent of the vote. None of the other races had any changes in their vote totals in that precinct.

To put this change in perspective, that single precinct’s corrections accounted for a significantly larger net swing in votes between the parties than occurred for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, or state house races.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449334,00.html

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Posted: 10 November 2008 08:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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John Yuma - 10 November 2008 07:26 PM

You better watch out for Obrien…

When voters woke up on Wednesday morning after the election, Senator Norm Coleman led Al Franken by what seemed like a relatively comfortable 725 votes. By Wednesday night, that lead had shrunk to 477. By Thursday night, it was down to 336. By Friday, it was 239. Late Sunday night, the difference had gone down to just 221—a total change over 4 days of 504 votes.

Amazingly, this all has occurred even though there hasn’t even yet been a recount. Just local election officials correcting claimed typos in how the numbers were reported. Counties will certify their results today, and their final results will be sent to the secretary of state by Friday. The actual recount won’t even start until November 19.

Correcting these typos was claimed to add 435 votes to Franken and take 69 votes from Coleman. Corrections were posted in other races, but they were only a fraction of those for the Senate. The Senate gains for Franken were 2.5 times the gain for Obama in the presidential race count, 2.9 times the total gain that Democrats got across all Minnesota congressional races, and 5 times the net loss that Democrats suffered for all state House races.

Virtually all of Franken’s new votes came from just three out of 4130 precincts, and almost half the gain (246 votes) occurred in one precinct—Two Harbors, a small town north of Duluth along Lake Superior—a heavily Democratic precinct where Obama received 64 percent of the vote. None of the other races had any changes in their vote totals in that precinct.

To put this change in perspective, that single precinct’s corrections accounted for a significantly larger net swing in votes between the parties than occurred for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, or state house races.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449334,00.html

Maybe there’s an honest recount in Minnesota instead of one presided over by the Tammy Faye Baker of secretaries of state.  Suck it up and hope that the forces of decency triumph.

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Posted: 10 November 2008 08:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Big Easy - 10 November 2008 08:22 PM

John Yuma - 10 November 2008 07:26 PM
You better watch out for Obrien…

When voters woke up on Wednesday morning after the election, Senator Norm Coleman led Al Franken by what seemed like a relatively comfortable 725 votes. By Wednesday night, that lead had shrunk to 477. By Thursday night, it was down to 336. By Friday, it was 239. Late Sunday night, the difference had gone down to just 221—a total change over 4 days of 504 votes.

Amazingly, this all has occurred even though there hasn’t even yet been a recount. Just local election officials correcting claimed typos in how the numbers were reported. Counties will certify their results today, and their final results will be sent to the secretary of state by Friday. The actual recount won’t even start until November 19.

Correcting these typos was claimed to add 435 votes to Franken and take 69 votes from Coleman. Corrections were posted in other races, but they were only a fraction of those for the Senate. The Senate gains for Franken were 2.5 times the gain for Obama in the presidential race count, 2.9 times the total gain that Democrats got across all Minnesota congressional races, and 5 times the net loss that Democrats suffered for all state House races.

Virtually all of Franken’s new votes came from just three out of 4130 precincts, and almost half the gain (246 votes) occurred in one precinct—Two Harbors, a small town north of Duluth along Lake Superior—a heavily Democratic precinct where Obama received 64 percent of the vote. None of the other races had any changes in their vote totals in that precinct.

To put this change in perspective, that single precinct’s corrections accounted for a significantly larger net swing in votes between the parties than occurred for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, or state house races.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449334,00.html

Maybe there’s an honest recount in Minnesota instead of one presided over by the Tammy Faye Baker of secretaries of state.  Suck it up and hope that the forces of decency triumph.

Maybe.  Maybe not.  So many coincidences, so little time…

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Posted: 10 November 2008 08:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Big Easy - 10 November 2008 08:22 PM

John Yuma - 10 November 2008 07:26 PM
You better watch out for Obrien…

When voters woke up on Wednesday morning after the election, Senator Norm Coleman led Al Franken by what seemed like a relatively comfortable 725 votes. By Wednesday night, that lead had shrunk to 477. By Thursday night, it was down to 336. By Friday, it was 239. Late Sunday night, the difference had gone down to just 221—a total change over 4 days of 504 votes.

Amazingly, this all has occurred even though there hasn’t even yet been a recount. Just local election officials correcting claimed typos in how the numbers were reported. Counties will certify their results today, and their final results will be sent to the secretary of state by Friday. The actual recount won’t even start until November 19.

Correcting these typos was claimed to add 435 votes to Franken and take 69 votes from Coleman. Corrections were posted in other races, but they were only a fraction of those for the Senate. The Senate gains for Franken were 2.5 times the gain for Obama in the presidential race count, 2.9 times the total gain that Democrats got across all Minnesota congressional races, and 5 times the net loss that Democrats suffered for all state House races.

Virtually all of Franken’s new votes came from just three out of 4130 precincts, and almost half the gain (246 votes) occurred in one precinct—Two Harbors, a small town north of Duluth along Lake Superior—a heavily Democratic precinct where Obama received 64 percent of the vote. None of the other races had any changes in their vote totals in that precinct.

To put this change in perspective, that single precinct’s corrections accounted for a significantly larger net swing in votes between the parties than occurred for all the precincts in the entire state for the presidential, congressional, or state house races.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,449334,00.html

Maybe there’s an honest recount in Minnesota instead of one presided over by the Tammy Faye Baker of secretaries of state.  Suck it up and hope that the forces of decency triumph.

The Secretary of state had nothing to do with the recount in 2 counties in Fla. 2000. It was all Democrats.

You know it and so do your vote stealing friends. Ahole.

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Posted: 10 November 2008 10:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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roux - 10 November 2008 08:55 PM

You know it and so do your vote stealing friends. Ahole.

Testy today, aren’t we.  PRESIDENT Barack Hussein Obama--get used to it.

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Big Easy - 10 November 2008 10:36 PM

roux - 10 November 2008 08:55 PM

You know it and so do your vote stealing friends. Ahole.

Testy today, aren’t we.  PRESIDENT Barack Hussein Obama--get used to it.

Let us know when your wallet get used to it.

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Posted: 10 November 2008 11:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Big Easy - 10 November 2008 10:36 PM

roux - 10 November 2008 08:55 PM

You know it and so do your vote stealing friends. Ahole.

Testy today, aren’t we.  PRESIDENT Barack Hussein Obama--get used to it.

Sadly you do not care about stolen votes.

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Posted: 16 November 2008 09:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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roux - 10 November 2008 11:17 PM

Sadly you do not care about stolen votes.

The Republican, Coleman lawyer who made up that story has backed off of it:

The “car ballot” story emerged Saturday from the mouth of Coleman lawyer Fritz Knaak, who, according to AP, told reporters, “We were actually told ballots had been riding around in her car for several days, which raised all kinds of integrity questions.”

Knaak never provided a source and did not return two MinnPost calls for comment. However, he was already backing off his story at the same press event. As that day’s Pioneer Press noted, “Knaak said he feels assured that what was going on with the 32 ballots was neither wrong nor unfair.”

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So the question remains, why do Coleman and the GOP not want all the votes counted?  Kinda’ smells like Florida circa 2000.  Like Yumie said, so many coincidences, so little time…

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Leon Trotsky - 16 November 2008 09:35 PM

Yumie

Yumie?  Hahahahaha.  Sounds like Trots enjoyed the taste…

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Posted: 17 November 2008 10:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Yumie, we’ll just go on and presume that, like the Republican who made up the story, you’re backing off the assertion that this election is “being stolen” simply because some people want all the votes counted.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 10:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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republcans always sue to stop votecounting

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Posted: 18 November 2008 11:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I guess now that we know the Republican Coleman lawyer made up the story about those 32 ballots, they have no opposition to counting all the votes.  If Coleman or Franken wins after the mandatory recount, then I wish whomever it is the best of luck, as should everybody else.

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