“The Whole Story” on Obama’s Citizenship, sent to me by Billy Miller
Posted: 15 November 2008 11:39 PM   [ Ignore ]
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If you want to know “the whole story” or “the rest of the story”, take/mak time to read this.

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Since the story broke late Saturday (August 9th) that Barack Obama’s real Birth Certificate, now in Republican hands, has the name Barry Soetoro and not Barack Obama, as we predicted a couple of weeks ago, I notice that many people are still confused about the implications of dual citizenship for Obama.

The matter is somewhat complex, so I’ve decided to try to provide a summary, with the help of resident expert ”Judah Benjamin.”

Indonesian Connection

Soetoro is the name on Obama’s Birth Certificate (BC) because a new BC was issued when he was adopted by Lolo Soetoro, his step-father. His original BC, which we assume was issued for Barack Hussein Obama at birth, would have been sealed at the time of the adoption.

Barry Soetoro probably acquired Indonesian citizenship in approximately 1965-1966, and may still hold it. He possibly changed his legal name back to Barack Hussein Obama as an older child, teenager, or adult, possibly never did — but even if he did, this procedure would not result in a change to the BC. (If he never legally changed his name back, I imagine his current name on the Presidential ballot would be invalid.)

The Birth Certificate published by Obama on his campaign website (still there, by the way) and distributed to the media was forged because the real BC on file is in the name Soetoro, an identity he apparently wanted to hide from the American people.

I am getting reports from different sources that Obama traveled to Pakistan in ‘81 with an Indonesian passport.

Prior to 2007 (and possibly earlier), Indonesian law did not permit dual citizenship. Thus, if Obama actively kept his Indonesian citizenship, his US citizenship could be challenged.

I suspect that Obama may have dumped his Indonesian citizenship at some point along the way, to advance his political career. But I would not be shocked if he still holds it. This question, however, should not overshadow the serious problem of hiding his Indonesian identity from the electorate.

Kenyan Citizenship

I personally doubt that Obama holds Kenyan citizenship. If he did, he could be stripped of his US citizenship under US law.

Barack Hussein Obama probably was a citizen of the British Crown (first two years of his life) and, effective 1963, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of his father’s nationality.

Under the Constitution of Kenya, he would have automatically forfeited his citizenship at the age of 21 unless he affirmatively “claimed” it. If he took some action to keep his citizenship, that’s a big problem because 1) Kenya prohibits dual citizenship and 2) the US does not recognize dual citizenship with Kenya. Further under the Kenyan Constitution, given his circumstances, he could only have kept Kenyan Citizenship, if he had it, by means of a Ministerial, Prime Ministerial, or Presidential Decree. (Of course, Raila Odinga is Prime Minister of Kenya and Odinga’s father, Oginga Odinga, was Vice President of Kenya and Barack Hussein Obama, Sr, was a close ally of the older Odinga.)

If Obama retained his Kenyan citizenship and helped campaign for his cousin Odinga, that is especially problematic under Title 8 of the U.S. Code, the relevant language of which is:

a) A person who is a national of the United States whether by birth or naturalization, shall lose his nationality by voluntarily performing any of the following acts with the intention of relinquishing United States nationality—

(2) taking an oath or making an affirmation or other formal declaration of allegiance to a foreign state or a political subdivision thereof, after having attained the age of eighteen years…

Again, I don’t think that Obama has Kenyan citizenship. I think that the Rocky Mountain report and Andy Martin’s work are poorly sourced on this point. I sometimes get the impression that Kenya serves as a diversion from the REAL PROBLEM, which is his Indonesian connection. It would be shocking to get actual confirmation of current Kenyan citizenship.

Electability & Eligibility Issues

These revelations raise several troubling issues for Obama’s electability and eligibility.

Foremost, there is the concerted attempt to cover up his Indonesian background and dual citizenship/identity from the electorate.

Secondly, there is a potential Constitutional problem with a POTUS having held dual citizenship, and Obama knows it; thus, the deception.

The “natural-born” clause of Article II is commonly understood to relate to the place of birth, but more accurately relates to loyalty to country as Commander in Chief. That was the original intent of the founding fathers. In McCain’s case, there is no question because of his circumstances (born on military base to 2 US citizens, later joined the military, never had anything to do with Panama, etc.). In Obama’s case, it’s not nearly so clear, especially given his travels, relatives, and associations in some of these other countries.

In my mind, however, the biggest problem is that Sen. Obama has intentionally concealed his background, Indonesian identity, citizenship, and the fact that he was at one time Muslim.

What else is he hiding? Credit must be given to Judah Benjamin, historian and former journalist, who has provided ground-breaking research on the factual and legal issues related to Obama’s Indonesian connection and dual citizenship; to Polarik for breaking the story of the COLB forgery; to Techdude for his analysis of the COLB forgery; to Dr. Kate for her tireless research efforts; to Michele, for bringing us a new COLB; to the No Quarter team for endless support; and to all the other writers and readers dedicated to the truth.

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Posted: 15 November 2008 11:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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The whole story:

Obama was born in Hawaii.

The end.

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Posted: 15 November 2008 11:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Trollfessor - 15 November 2008 11:43 PM

The whole story:

Obama was born in Hawaii.

The end.

Oh, no, no, no!  We refuse to believe the
truth.  We’re gonna prove he was born
in Kenya, or Nigeria, or in the Belgian Congo,
or maybe even in South Africa...or maybe
even Iran.  Just join in with us.  We can’t lose.

(Humor intended, of course!)

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Posted: 16 November 2008 12:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I’ve researched this topic and found the best analysis can be found by watching this short clip.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 07:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Trollfessor - 15 November 2008 11:43 PM

The whole story:

Obama was born in Hawaii.
The end.

Maybe Dan Rather and Producer Mary Mapes, can uncover trust like they did with
George W. Bush’s Air National Guard training at Ellington AF Base in Houston.

Believe what you will !  There will be someone searching for the Obama story for the next for years.
It will never go away.

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Posted: 17 November 2008 08:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Beau Winkle - 17 November 2008 07:23 PM

Trollfessor - 15 November 2008 11:43 PM
The whole story:

Obama was born in Hawaii.
The end.

Maybe Dan Rather and Producer Mary Mapes, can’t uncover trust like they did with
George W. Bush’s Air National Guard training at Ellington AF Base in Houston.

Believe what you will !  There will be someone searching for the Obama story for the next for years.
It will never go away.

Yes, and some that still believe in the JFK assassination conspiracy, and the Bush 911 Conspiracy.  Both have been proven to be ridiculous using modern technology.

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