Politics
Sailor Who Served With Kerry: ‘He Deserved the Medal’
By BILL SLOAT
Cleveland Plain Dealer
Aug 21, 2004, 11:38

An Ohio factory worker who was with John Kerry on a dangerous night mission 36 years ago in Vietnam said he has no doubt Kerry was grazed in a firefight and deserves his first Purple Heart for a combat injury.

“We were on about a 14-foot boat with an outboard motor. We started out, taking a guess, around 10 p.m. We were sup posed to sneak up and check sampans,” said Pat Runyon, a 58-year-old grandfather from Eaton, a small southwestern Ohio town near the Indiana border.

Runyon, an enlisted man who served on Swift boats in Vietnam, was not a regular member of Kerry’s crew.

He said in an interview Sunday he somehow was chosen - “Let me tell you, I didn’t volunteer” - to go out on the Dec. 2, 1968, mission, called a “skim op” in Navy slang.

The small, flat-bottomed boat - Runyon called it a “skimmer” - carried three men - Kerry in command, Bill Zaledonis on a machine gun and Runyon operating the outboard motor.

Once in place on the river, the three U.S. sailors paddled and drifted. Covered by the darkness, they hid to stop sampans, small vessels common in Southeast Asia. Guerillas used the sampans to smuggle weapons in the Mekong River Delta.

Runyon said Kerry was wounded after one vessel tried to avoid an inspection.

“Lt. Kerry said, ‘I’m going to pop a flare, and when I do, I want that engine started,’ “ Runyon said. But the outboard would not crank. Meanwhile, the sampan’s crew steered it to the riverbank, and people started running on the shore. Runyon said shooting broke out.

Somehow, Kerry’s weapon stopped firing. Runyon thinks he ran out of ammunition. He said Kerry bent down to pick up another gun and got hit in the arm.

“It wasn’t a serious wound,” Runyon said, and Kerry was able to start shooting again. When the firefight was over, Runyon said Kerry told him all he felt was a “burning sensation.”

Runyon said he remembers the incident clearly because it was the first time he had been in combat. “I hadn’t seen any kind of action or anything,” he said.

He said Kerry, Zaledonis and himself were the only men aboard. When he got the motor started, they took off. He said the outboard was in bad condition and did not have a handle to steer with. “I had to wrap my arms around it, like hugging it, to turn it,” he recalled.

Runyon now works the second shift at a plant that makes auto parts in Eaton. He works in the shipping department.

He is supporting Democratic nominee Kerry for president, but said he is not a Democrat and has never been active in politics. He said he and Kerry met for the first time since that night in 1968 at a rally in Dayton this year.

Runyon said he introduced himself to the Massachusetts senator and Kerry did not remember him. “When I talked to him about that night, he remembered the incident but not my name. He just eased up once he knew I was who I said I was.”

Runyon was at a Democratic picnic Sunday in Trotwood, a Dayton suburb, where he told the small gathering of party activists that an anti-Kerry veterans group was smearing the senator with false charges. “It’s very poor to try and discredit him after [36] years,” Runyon said. “That’s very poor.”

Runyon said that firefight with Kerry is his brush with fame.

“I saw a nice, quiet guy who knew he was in command and didn’t flaunt it. He could make a decision, and he made the right one because we got out of there alive. That’s all I can tell you.

Ok, you win, I’ll submit that John Kerry behaved with valor while he was in Vietnam. However, when he came home he then #### all over fellow veterans of accusing them and himself of committing war crimes while there. While we were at war, he gave that disgusting testimony that stabbed everyone of his “band of brothers” right in their hearts and gave our enemy hope and confidence. He went from hero to traitor, just like Benidict Arnold. Now, can you admit that what I say is true or are you standing in line to drink the Kool aid for this coming November?

[QUOTE=Unregistered]Politics
Sailor Who Served With Kerry: ‘He Deserved the Medal’
By BILL SLOAT
Cleveland Plain Dealer
Aug 21, 2004, 11:38

An Ohio factory worker who was with John Kerry on a dangerous night mission 36 years ago in Vietnam said he has no doubt Kerry was grazed in a firefight and deserves his first Purple Heart for a combat injury.

“We were on about a 14-foot boat with an outboard motor. We started out, taking a guess, around 10 p.m. We were sup posed to sneak up and check sampans,” said Pat Runyon, a 58-year-old grandfather from Eaton, a small southwestern Ohio town near the Indiana border.

Runyon, an enlisted man who served on Swift boats in Vietnam, was not a regular member of Kerry’s crew.

He said in an interview Sunday he somehow was chosen - “Let me tell you, I didn’t volunteer” - to go out on the Dec. 2, 1968, mission, called a “skim op” in Navy slang.

The small, flat-bottomed boat - Runyon called it a “skimmer” - carried three men - Kerry in command, Bill Zaledonis on a machine gun and Runyon operating the outboard motor.

Once in place on the river, the three U.S. sailors paddled and drifted. Covered by the darkness, they hid to stop sampans, small vessels common in Southeast Asia. Guerillas used the sampans to smuggle weapons in the Mekong River Delta.

Runyon said Kerry was wounded after one vessel tried to avoid an inspection.

“Lt. Kerry said, ‘I’m going to pop a flare, and when I do, I want that engine started,’ “ Runyon said. But the outboard would not crank. Meanwhile, the sampan’s crew steered it to the riverbank, and people started running on the shore. Runyon said shooting broke out.

Somehow, Kerry’s weapon stopped firing. Runyon thinks he ran out of ammunition. He said Kerry bent down to pick up another gun and got hit in the arm.

“It wasn’t a serious wound,” Runyon said, and Kerry was able to start shooting again. When the firefight was over, Runyon said Kerry told him all he felt was a “burning sensation.”

Runyon said he remembers the incident clearly because it was the first time he had been in combat. “I hadn’t seen any kind of action or anything,” he said.

He said Kerry, Zaledonis and himself were the only men aboard. When he got the motor started, they took off. He said the outboard was in bad condition and did not have a handle to steer with. “I had to wrap my arms around it, like hugging it, to turn it,” he recalled.

Runyon now works the second shift at a plant that makes auto parts in Eaton. He works in the shipping department.

He is supporting Democratic nominee Kerry for president, but said he is not a Democrat and has never been active in politics. He said he and Kerry met for the first time since that night in 1968 at a rally in Dayton this year.

Runyon said he introduced himself to the Massachusetts senator and Kerry did not remember him. “When I talked to him about that night, he remembered the incident but not my name. He just eased up once he knew I was who I said I was.”

Runyon was at a Democratic picnic Sunday in Trotwood, a Dayton suburb, where he told the small gathering of party activists that an anti-Kerry veterans group was smearing the senator with false charges. “It’s very poor to try and discredit him after [36] years,” Runyon said. “That’s very poor.”

Runyon said that firefight with Kerry is his brush with fame.

“I saw a nice, quiet guy who knew he was in command and didn’t flaunt it. He could make a decision, and he made the right one because we got out of there alive. That’s all I can tell you.”

But Runyon was not there for the incident when Kerry claimed he sailed his boat into enemy fire to pluck Rasmussen out of the water. O’Neill claimed that Kerry fled when the firing started and only returned when the situation was under control. This is the incident that Kerry talks about the most.

[QUOTE=Morning Breath]Unregistered:

I think you have struck on a telling point. To me, the attack on Kerry’s war exploits rang hollow. He placed himself in danger and behaved honorably; the men who served on his boat call him brave, and I agree with them and honor his service.

His behavior when he became an anti-war activist is a different thing. For decades, he has been able to evade questions about his accusations of war crimes. I think what he did was disgraceful- remember, while he said these things many Americans were POWs.

It seems he did put himself in danger by volunteering and being where he was, but doesn’t anyone else think it strange that he used such small wounds, even if they occurred in combat, to claim eligibility for Purple Heart medals? Don’t you normally think of wounds that are a little more serious when someone has received that award? I think maybe he had one injury that would qualify. He needed a certain number of medals though to get out of Vietnam. Isn’t that right? And he used the slight wounds to gain his chance to get out of there. And the least admirable thing he did was to come home and say the things he did about men who had gone over there and also risked their lives and many even died. A lot of those men didn’t want to go to Vietnam but they didn’t have an option. They were drafted and they went and some never came home to defend their honor against someone telling congress that they committed war crimes. I could no more vote for John Kerry than I could vote for Jane Fonda.

[QUOTE=Unregisteredok]It seems he did put himself in danger by volunteering and being where he was, but doesn’t anyone else think it strange that he used such small wounds, even if they occurred in combat, to claim eligibility for Purple Heart medals? Don’t you normally think of wounds that are a little more serious when someone has received that award? I think maybe he had one injury that would qualify. He needed a certain number of medals though to get out of Vietnam. Isn’t that right? And he used the slight wounds to gain his chance to get out of there. And the least admirable thing he did was to come home and say the things he did about men who had gone over there and also risked their lives and many even died. A lot of those men didn’t want to go to Vietnam but they didn’t have an option. They were drafted and they went and some never came home to defend their honor against someone telling congress that they committed war crimes. I could no more vote for John Kerry than I could vote for Jane Fonda.

Hell with all this vietnam crap, let us talk of Kerry’s wonderful senate record. I forgot, there isn’t one.